How to deal w/ ENTER-POST-LEAVE flooding
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How to deal w/ ENTER-POST-LEAVE flooding
by k-e-e-n Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:44 pm
First topic message reminder :
At present theres nothing much we can do about these guys doing that type of flooding. Let me share you the facts why is that so:
1. These guys are using a small program as shown in Fig.1
2. He will preset the room he's going to flood & the garbled messages.
3. And after pressing the record of the mouse macro recoder,(See Fig.2)
he enters the room using the small program, post the garbled message,
then he leave.
4. Then stop the recorder. Now he is ready.
5. Finally, he set the macro recorder to play like a hundred times
repeat of what he just recorded.
6. Then he press "Play" and the flooding starts.
Suggested solutions:
Leave the room: Let him enjoy his lunatic display alone. Mobile users are adviced to
leave at once for this type of high-speed flood eats up a lot of
byte-usage in an instant due to rapid data transfer.
Lock the room: Fill up the room's 25-user capacity so he can not re-enter thus
making his life a bit harder because he can not stop the macro easily once started.
Call Admins: He might run away or be kicked by an admin. But even admins can not
just kick him because he (flooder) is not in the room all the time.
Fig.1 (the small program)
Fig.2 (macro recorder)
At present theres nothing much we can do about these guys doing that type of flooding. Let me share you the facts why is that so:
1. These guys are using a small program as shown in Fig.1
2. He will preset the room he's going to flood & the garbled messages.
3. And after pressing the record of the mouse macro recoder,(See Fig.2)
he enters the room using the small program, post the garbled message,
then he leave.
4. Then stop the recorder. Now he is ready.
5. Finally, he set the macro recorder to play like a hundred times
repeat of what he just recorded.
6. Then he press "Play" and the flooding starts.
Suggested solutions:
Leave the room: Let him enjoy his lunatic display alone. Mobile users are adviced to
leave at once for this type of high-speed flood eats up a lot of
byte-usage in an instant due to rapid data transfer.
Lock the room: Fill up the room's 25-user capacity so he can not re-enter thus
making his life a bit harder because he can not stop the macro easily once started.
Call Admins: He might run away or be kicked by an admin. But even admins can not
just kick him because he (flooder) is not in the room all the time.
Fig.1 (the small program)
Fig.2 (macro recorder)
Last edited by keen on Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:30 am; edited 4 times in total
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Re: How to deal w/ ENTER-POST-LEAVE flooding
by camhe22 Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:05 pm
this type of flooding is still exist and it will more becoming harsh. when this trick will be fade away? 
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Re: How to deal w/ ENTER-POST-LEAVE flooding
by tusoquero Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:59 pm
Aside from Admin Keen's post, we can suggest also to mig33 team that re-entering consecutively to last visited room in a period of 3-5 seconds shouldn't be allowed...keen_force wrote:One suggestion to the mig33 programmers is to create an error trap program that catch any high speed data transmission (like enter-leave flooding) inside chatrooms. This trap will instruct mig33 server to ignore those data and will not display in chatters' monitors.
That way, the flooder only floods himself. He is not visible to other chatters during his flooding.
Easier said than done huh?
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Re: How to deal w/ ENTER-POST-LEAVE flooding
by k-e-e-n Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:29 am
tusoquero wrote:Aside from Admin Keen's post, we can suggest also to mig33 team that re-entering consecutively to last visited room in a period of 3-5 seconds shouldn't be allowed...keen_force wrote:One suggestion to the mig33 programmers is to create an error trap program that catch any high speed data transmission (like enter-leave flooding) inside chatrooms. This trap will instruct mig33 server to ignore those data and will not display in chatters' monitors.
That way, the flooder only floods himself. He is not visible to other chatters during his flooding.
Easier said than done huh?
Yes but they should fix first the bug about getting dc'd when you enter the chatroom that says something like "you are not in the chatroom". Otherwise, poor innocent guys will be affected too. 5 seconds is too long for them
isnt it.
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Re: How to deal w/ ENTER-POST-LEAVE flooding
by camhe22 Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:38 pm
you got a point site admin keen. if mig33 team going to fix this, they have to make sure that the innocent users couldn't affect otherwise everybody will be suffered instead of flooders only.
at bro tusoquero nice idea too. keep on posting and sharing your ideas bro.
at bro tusoquero nice idea too. keep on posting and sharing your ideas bro.
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by tusoquero Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:43 pm
Post from mig33 admin freakitude:
The user can be presented with a randomly generated code that he must read and enter to make his connection with the chatroom active.
or the user can be asked to answer a randomly generated mathematical question to make make his connection with the chatroom active.
This will make the chatroom entry process more complicated as multikickers will have to enter the code every time they need to enter the chatroom. This will also solve the problem of enter-leave flooders.
Additional thing that can be done is that the users that are idle in the chatroom for more than 10 minutes, their connection from the chatroom should automatically be dropped.
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The user can be presented with a randomly generated code that he must read and enter to make his connection with the chatroom active.
or the user can be asked to answer a randomly generated mathematical question to make make his connection with the chatroom active.
This will make the chatroom entry process more complicated as multikickers will have to enter the code every time they need to enter the chatroom. This will also solve the problem of enter-leave flooders.
Additional thing that can be done is that the users that are idle in the chatroom for more than 10 minutes, their connection from the chatroom should automatically be dropped.
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- ok boss... sorry
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Re: How to deal w/ ENTER-POST-LEAVE flooding
by k-e-e-n Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:28 am
That's a very effective way of controlling enter-leave flooders and to some extent kickers too. But it removes a bit of a convenience to chatters as well. Especially the bug of first time entering on chatroom ie. "you are not in chatroom" is not yet totally solved. Convenience should come first.
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Re: How to deal w/ ENTER-POST-LEAVE flooding
by camhe22 Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:03 pm
is it in mig33 server error about that "YOU ARE IN CHATROOM?" i thought i happens when we are experiencing low network connection.keen wrote:Especially the bug of first time entering on chatroom ie. "you are not in chatroom" is not yet totally solved. Convenience should come first.
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Re: How to deal w/ ENTER-POST-LEAVE flooding
by k-e-e-n Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:49 pm
Yes MI Final, slow net connection contributes but it is still a bug that needs to be fixed.
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Re: How to deal w/ ENTER-POST-LEAVE flooding
by tusoquero Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:20 pm
Hi guyz! Enter-Leave flooding is over...
mig33™ team has already fixed this problem.
Re-entering your recent ID in same room for less than 20 seconds will not work. (Snapshots below)
I hope that mig33 team will fix also multi ID kicking by blocking each ID that follows in split seconds with the same IP address.
mig33™ team has already fixed this problem.
Re-entering your recent ID in same room for less than 20 seconds will not work. (Snapshots below)
I hope that mig33 team will fix also multi ID kicking by blocking each ID that follows in split seconds with the same IP address.
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Re: How to deal w/ ENTER-POST-LEAVE flooding
by hamka Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:33 pm
ur post available bro tuso in section mig33 on news forum ,topic by bro keen. . . .
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Re: How to deal w/ ENTER-POST-LEAVE flooding
by tusoquero Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:30 pm
Sorry bro hamka. Actually, I posted to this topic 45mins prior to the topic which was created by mam susette. I tried to create new topic on News section but unfortunately I can't create new topic. So, I searched for possible previous topics related to enter-leave flooding instead of creating new one.
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